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Behind Blue Eyes
Yet this was brushed aside, not only by the characters themselves (this includes Giles), the writers, and viewers alike. Xander never had to redeem himself nor did the writers have him seek redemption. THAT is what drives me nuts.
March 05, 2014 12:00pm

Behind Blue Eyes
how certain characters on the show seem (for some) to have a free pass for inexcusable behavior. Going along the same lines of some Bangel shippers calling Spike a rapist. If this is true, why isn't Xander the same? If you remember, Season 1 The Pack, Xander also attacked and tried to rape Buffy
March 05, 2014 11:58am

Behind Blue Eyes
We don't know for sure what Angel nor Spike did prior to what Joss showed us. We can ASSUME, but we never know truly. However, we do know what happened in Seeing Red. And no justification can change nor excuse what Spike tried to do. Period. However, the issue I have is this...
March 05, 2014 11:55am

But we know for sure that Angel raped Dru after systematically destroying her mind and breaking her spirit.
March 05, 2014 11:50am

A lot of Bangels compare souled Angel to Soulless Spike and don't seem to get why their arguments don't make sense. We don't know for sure that Spike ever raped anybody. He stopped with Buffy and when he said he had raped girls like Dawn he might have been trying to get her to kill him.
March 05, 2014 11:50am

People just don't get that cyber arguments are completely pointless, do they? Although, on that page 'spuffy93' pretty much sums up everything that's great about Spuffy, so kudos to that shipper
March 05, 2014 10:35am

are out calling Spike a disgusting rapist..Typical.
March 05, 2014 09:19am

I think the dating DB has a lot to do with it...but I always thought that JM and SMG got along fine, I've seen interviews where they say they were like brother and sister. I think SR had a lot to do with bad feelings later on I think :( I was just over on the poll site and the Bangels
March 05, 2014 09:19am

Didn't SMG date DB? and they obviously maintain a friendship. IMO I am sure her choice was influenced by that since it seems, from Q&As JM has done that their relationship wasn't all that friendly.
March 05, 2014 07:02am

65% for Spike! Now we just have to maintain his lead for 2 days.
March 04, 2014 11:38pm

I don't mean to say actors don't know their characters?
March 04, 2014 07:58pm

I read it before I saw that bit about as her saying she had took up with Shane because it was the easy thing to do (letting him make all the decisions instead of standing up and protecting herself and her son_)I thought it awesome until I read the comment about what she meant.
March 04, 2014 07:00pm

They had the actress playing Lori on TWD write her death speech and I read about how she was supposed to be saying goodbye to all she loved including Shane (who was dead, tried to rape her and kill her husband) .
March 04, 2014 06:57pm

62% now. Down with the great forehead!
March 04, 2014 06:47pm

@Dark Rapunzel..Yep @mii22y EXACTLY! And no matter what SMG or JM or Joss say I'm gonna be 150% Spuffy. :)
March 04, 2014 05:06pm

Dark Rapunzel
vote, refresh browser, vote again, lather, rinse, repeat :D
March 04, 2014 04:22pm

A little random, but I really think actors and writers shouldn't state their opinions about these types of things. It's why I stopped reading things writers say about their shows and remaining ignorant about actor drama. It ruins the magic for me.
March 04, 2014 04:10pm

Spike's at 56% now! This is awesome!
March 04, 2014 02:47pm

56% now. Gotta increase the margin ...
March 04, 2014 02:46pm

SMG prefers Bangel and JM prefers Sprusilla. The only thing that matters is what *you* prefer.
March 04, 2014 02:26pm

Behind Blue Eyes
Not even ten minutes later and it's 52%-47%!
March 04, 2014 02:12pm

Spike is ahead 50%-49%...Whooo keep voting fellow Spuffies! :D
March 04, 2014 02:05pm

I've been voting since the poll came out after SMG's Reddit AMA(ugh how disappointed was I when I saw how firmly BANGEL she is) Spike has moved up he was at 34% when I last voted. You can vote multiple times too and the poll closes in 2 days.
March 04, 2014 01:48pm

Thanks for alerting us to a great cause, All4Spike. Our lad's only at 42% :(
I'm not sure if it's gonna record my multiple votes, but I'm giving it a go anyways

March 04, 2014 01:15pm

Spuffy needs your vote against Bangel...
March 04, 2014 12:44pm

Tabula Rasa Ad Aeternum by Kallysten and Kantayra fits the bill:
March 02, 2014 07:58pm

They get together in Talesofspike's A Better Sunnydale series (unfortunately not on the site)
March 02, 2014 06:19pm

Giles and Anya get together in the Origins series.
March 02, 2014 02:22pm

I remember reading a Spuffy fic, I think it was season 6, where Giles comes to see Anya in a romantic light … after Tabula Rasa, sorry but I can't remember who wrote it or the title.
March 02, 2014 01:27pm

spikedreamer are you looking for a fic that has Giles+Anya? Hmm... you know I can't recall reading a fic with that pairing, at least not one I remember vividly. Anyone wanna help out?
March 02, 2014 12:25pm