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theblueeyedvampire
That "O3P" should've been "OT3", I think. Whatever the abbreviation is. I think I need to drink more coffee before I try to make jokes.
October 29, 2014 11:30pm

theblueeyedvampire
SoaringClaws, I totally agree about the boringness that is Captain Cardboard. That scene in "Something Blue" where he tries to talk seductively about cars? I laugh every time. O3P = Riley + cars + off a cliff.
October 29, 2014 11:29pm

SoaringClaws
Bangel I can kind of understand. It's the same people that think Romeo and Juliet is actually a valid love story rather than a farce about idiot teenagers. The one I don't get is Buffy/Riley. They were so *boring* together! There was zero chemistry between the actors. Just... what?
October 29, 2014 11:26pm

juggler
It always comes as a surprise to me when anyone fails to ship Spuffy, I just don't understand how Bangel is at all interesting. I never got Willow with Kennedy I mean wtf were they thinking???? Oz yes, Tara oh yes but Kennedy?????
October 29, 2014 10:29pm

TieDyeJackson
LoL, dang shipper wars. Believe me, every time I like a couple in a TV show, I draw the ire of people because I always seem to pick a less-than-popular ship. I need to stop watching so much TV and picking couples that make sense rather than wear blinders for that one happily ever after couple.
October 29, 2014 07:31pm

13696
There are always jerks in any fandom sadly, and nothing brings the nasty types out of the woodwork quicker than shipper wars. I don't think any less of SMG for preferring Bangel because she clearly is such good friends with DB, how could that not colour her preferences?
October 29, 2014 06:58pm

EllieRose101
Agree with pretty much everything below :)
October 29, 2014 05:49pm

scorpiogirl
and condenscending they were to me, and they seem so immature so I kinda put SMG into that viewpoint too.
October 29, 2014 05:45pm

scorpiogirl
I think both Buffy and SMG look at the Bangel thru rose colored glasses. I agree with you acekoomboom, and I know I shouldn't, but every time SMG talks so gushingly of Bangel I kind of lose some respect for her mainly due to some bad experiences with some Bangels in the past and how rude
October 29, 2014 05:44pm

acekoomboom
because as soon as Angel's soul left he didn't love her anymore. As soon as Buffy grew up some, her life didn't revolve around her lost love anymore. (P.S. omg I am that annoying one who takes way too long to say something, so sorry! Didn't mean to, I got carried away.)
October 29, 2014 05:04pm

acekoomboom
think there is something to be said about that. But, as I said, it isn't retold like that. It is looked at as Angel and Buffy were so cute and sweet and worried about each other, never did anything to hurt each other, truly and totally in love throughout every part of each of them. Which isn't true,
October 29, 2014 05:02pm

acekoomboom
SMG looks at Angel almost the same way Buffy did: big epic love, starcrossed Romeo and Juliet; soulmates torn apart by eveil. It is now sort of Legend-ish, awesome and over the top and didn't happen the way it really did. A part of Spike loved Buffy, and that same part of Angel(demon) hated her. I t
October 29, 2014 05:01pm

acekoomboom
Also, SMG had to put Buffy in a very dark place during the time Spike went down. To do that, she most likely had to reach a dark place within herself. So, during the time she would have been open to seeing the truth of Spike and Buffy, she wasn't in the space to see anything in a good light. I think
October 29, 2014 04:55pm

Legen
I also think that shooting schedules and the general chaos that goes into making a show could have a factor. If smg has never actually watched the entire series, she might not know the actual particulars as to why spuffy is so superior to bangel
October 28, 2014 11:41pm

SoaringClaws
@Dactylgirl: That's a good point. It's that whole, you have no more control over how people view your art once it's out in the world.
October 28, 2014 10:55pm

13696
. . . I think the same can be said about actors and their characters.
October 28, 2014 05:55pm

13696
I've always got the impression that SMG's Bangel preference has a lot to do with how well she got on with DB as well. No harm in that. As my literature teacher is forever saying, the author is not a valid category for interpreting a text and . . .
October 28, 2014 05:53pm

SuperiorSpiderMan
I especially liked Between the Lines, Admittance & Trying Again ^_^
October 28, 2014 05:48pm

EllieRose101
@SuperiorSpiderMan Oh *blushes* thank you!
October 28, 2014 03:50pm

SuperiorSpiderMan
Just wanted to mention that I just discovered this site after reading several of your short, smutty stories over at FanFiction.net, EllieRose101 - good stuff, highly entertaining!
October 28, 2014 01:03pm

EllieRose101
Also, after Sarah did a Reddit AMA in which she said she was team Angel, someone asked James about his thoughts about it, and he said there was probably more to it than that. Said it was probably because he used to mess with her a lot.
October 28, 2014 12:13pm

EllieRose101
I heard that Whedon said Spike was a token love interest character, in an interview years ago, and James wasn't happy about it, so he called him and they had a disagreement.
October 28, 2014 12:11pm

VampyreLover
I agree with you Wonder and Ashes, it would seem she prefers the Bangel pairing due to the actor rather than the storyline itself. Maybe the difficult scenes she had to shoot with JM prevents her from truly appreciate how much more sense a Spuffy pairing makes for the character and the BTVS story.
October 28, 2014 09:44am

Wonder and Ashes
From where I'm standing, then, it's more she likes the pairing because of DB rather than the pairing itself. Sort of makes sense since realistically, you would prefer a pairing which includes an actor/person you like.
October 28, 2014 08:56am

VampyreLover
Yes Wonder and Ashes, she called herself an "Angel girl" in an interview this month, also said that people get mad at her for it. She definitely has strong feelings for DB, on her Twitter page she called him "her Angel" for his Bday and posted Bangel pics.
October 28, 2014 06:42am

Wonder and Ashes
As for the Bangel thing, has Sarah said that in a recent interview? I know she said it at the time of the show and a couple of years after, but has she grown since then? And in my opinion, I think her "fondness" for Bangel had more to do with being good friends with David (possibly more).
October 28, 2014 05:17am

Wonder and Ashes
Somehow I doubt JW would still be "allegedly pissed off" at JM. A) All that happened over ten years ago. B) (If it's true) JW said he preferred Spuffy, which only could've happened with the extra character depth. And most writers love characters with depth, so I'm surprised they didn't.
October 28, 2014 05:15am

SoaringClaws
JM has said in a couple of interviews that I've read that he played Spike in a way that he wasn't exactly supposed to. He added depth where the writers/directors didn't want Spike to be likable. I can see how that would make him unpopular with the writers. His defiance sure payed off though, IMO.
October 28, 2014 01:49am

juggler
It seems kind of petty not to use someone of his talent and appeal unless it was really over the line.
October 27, 2014 11:46pm

juggler
Huh, any idea how.
October 27, 2014 11:43pm