Whoa! You weren't kidding about this not being your usual fare. Still recognisably you though, and compelling stuff. I like the way it's not just straightforward Riley bashing. You get inside his head, which makes it all the more disturbing. Looks like Buffy had a narrow escape in canon!
Not to pressure you, but I hope you manage to update and complete this story. (I have been enjoying the updates of your other fics, especially Prisoners of Love. )[Report This]
First time through.
This is a nice start on the challenge you are responding to. It's a nice introduction into Riley, Buffy, and Spike, who I assume are the main focus points of this story. I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm actually kind of interesting in how you are developing Riley's character. He has this self possessed attitude that I kind of want to see slam up against the reality of the situation that he is trying to create. Buffy will NEVER stop being the slayer. Even for a child and he will wind up being stay at home daddy. And he already has issues with being the cheerleader in the relationship I can't see him not pitching a fit about changing dippers. I can also see him being one of those parents who resents the other one for having a carrier and bad mouthing them to their kid.
I'm kind of interested in seeing how Buffy is going to handle the whole being pregnant situation. She already has to take care of dawn and her mother's death is coming up. And we are one to two months away from her mother dying and another two or three before Buffy herself dies. That's not enough time to gestate a baby. So you are going to have to either stretch the timeline or implement a "slayers gestate babies faster then humans." sort of deal. Or Buffy gets dropped into the portal while pregnant and Spike jumps in after her. That won't comply with the challenge but its a believable situation and would be a real gut twist when she comes back with Spike and little Finn all grown up and it was just Riley who missed out on the kids child. But personally I would like it if Buffy missed out on it too that way Riley and her could clash over accepting the child back as Buffy wouldn't care about the time lost just that she got to live long enough to see her baby girl all grown up. Rilely will feel cheated by it not tying Buffy to him "for the long haul" that he wants ever so much.
Don't have a lot on Spike but I loved how he twisted the knife into Xander with so little screen time you've given him. You write very get dialogue and I so want to see more of it in the future. It kind of makes me wonder what kind of dad he is going to be for the littlest Finn. And what kind of demon dimension will they get dropped into? A pylea like one with inhabitants and societal structures or a vast wilderness that never developed sentient life, I also kind of like the idea of a true hell dimension like where Holts and Connor went. Its supposed to be a punishment for Riley by a demon so I can see a tormenting hell for the child, or a paradise where the kids every need was met so that she never felt the need to search out her father. The first would be more impressive as it would mean Spike actually fought for their survival and taught little Finn to do so as well. How funny would it be if she made herself a mask and some fangs to be more like her Dad because he is just as likely to ripe a throat out with his teeth as break a neck and she learned by watching him.
Okay, I've speculated enough feel free to ignore me as my imagination get the best of me. You have a great start for this story. I would love to see how it continues from this point. Thank you for sharing it with us.[Report This]
lord. Riley ... his thoughts are just 🤮. This is extremely hard to read, but really good. Also lmfao Giles. When is riley gonna realize he knows nothing about what buffy or Spike (or any of them really) are capable of. Dawn is defo in mega-danger.[Report This]
even from a distance her presence was like a bonfire, hot and fascinating and deadly, and he’d wanted to fling himself on that fire, see if she even noticed him.
- This is just so damn delicious 😍
“What color hair did it have? I mean, yellow, or pink, or blue?”
- Haha 😂 Okay, now I really need to read a fic with a troll troll. Or a whole rainbow of them. Love it, and all of Harm's ramble.
He might as well turn in his Big Bad credentials and go see if the bloody knife-merchants needed a new spokesman.
He could give one hell of a demonstration.
- Aww, Spike. Love his voice so much all through here, and urgh, it's such a breath of fresh air with its straight fairness.
“Spike?” Riley’s face closed.
- *shudders* Ick, you're doing such a disturbingly excellent job of capturing the horrible feelings of the situation.
“I don’t trust anything that isn’t human.” ... “‘Just a human girl,’” Edwin laughed. “If you say so.”
- Oh no. I predict Riley justifying anything to himself once he labels her non-human internally.
It wasn’t her fault he could still tell she didn’t mean it. That she was still hiding things.
- Again, shudder.
This is such a (wonderful? important? affecting? I don't know, strong?) story, the (perfectly characterised) way that even all-powerful Buffy can be twisted into being controlled and abused through tiny seemingly-insignificant steps and concessions. I don't know how to make the words, but I love it very very muchly for all its horror, and I can't wait to see it continue 💙
God, man, this is so dark. Beautifully wonderfully done with its sinister subtle signs of something horrible.
...he wanted to see. ...he didn’t want that. ...hadn’t seen Willow for a while..
So creepily disturbingly accurate. I'm so afraid for her.
- And this is painful.
I love this so much, and applaud the way you're representing it so spectacularly.
Thank you 💙[Report This]
She sniffled. “You’re not gone.”
- Okay, I hate Riley, but you built up her feelings so well that for a split-second I was glad for her here.
they were getting an actual happy ending.
- Oof, oh no. I've read the notes, my poor dear girl 😢
Brilliant opener, and I'm racing onwards ->[Report This]
(she made sure to think about the staying and not the vamps or the fight or the ultimatum, because she was staying positive, she was ready for love) What a great aside!
The Buffy scene hurts, god. That just isn't Buffy, but it is a Buffy that could happen trying to please Riley unnecessarily.
The Riley scene is SO SQUICKY. I have just no sympathy for that man, the main reason I refuse to write him into a fic for longer than a cameo exit.
The Spike scene is WONDERFUL, BE. It's so good. I adore your Spike voice, truly/
That last scene is so tough to read, SO insanely quicky, that I can barely get through it, Be. Riley is such an asshole. So many of his thoughts in that sequence are difficult to read.
Plot-wise, I am excited for what happens as a result of that squickness, and am excited to see how the Spike stuff develops.
Character-wise, I am highly anticipating more of your Spike. He's brilliant (as always!)
Great chapter, Be <3[Report This]
I like that you noted it's in November. Months too often get forgotten.
I always had mixed feelings about this episode, because, Riley, ugh, yuck, and Xander, some misplaced words in hindsight there, buddy, but Buffy also wanted to run for him, and she loved him, but, YUCK, RILEY.
ixnay the snotty crying essionsay IS A WONDERFUL line written by a WONDERFUL PERSON.
I like that mini-twist at the end with Spike seeing them. The whole time we're looking at this from Buffy's POV and then, BAM, its back to Spike.
SQUICK, Be. I'm both dreading the Riley SQUICK and excited to be outta the woods later.
Plot wise, Riley's now gonna be involved in Ben/Glory, I guess. That should end well *snort*
Wrt characters, I think you've got Buffy absolutely nailed here, as per usual.
Good job with this messy situation so far, Be <3
Spike and Xander bonding was brilliant. Whether the points that Spike was trying to make will be understood is another thing entirely, but he tried and they talked and it was good.
I had forgotten Harmony was still around at this point. Her idea of decorating the crypt with a rainbow of trolls was perfect. Poor Spike.
More frustrating Riley. Ugh. Kill Spike. Kill all the demons. Follow the Council's orders blindly. *groan*
Riley's interview went better than I might have thought. Though I expect he will start wondering at the way that the Watcher reacted when he said that Buffy was 'just a human girl'. And the implications that he was more hinderance than help. And that he completely fucked up with his unintentional implication that Buffy was incapable. Unless of course he continues to believe in all the justifications he made to himself.
She was going to be a fantastic mother - he really is a callous prick, isn't he.
Once she had a family, she could stop slaying, too - and he knows absolutely nothing about her. Like she would ever stop slaying. Idiot.
What is Riley going to do now that he has found out about the bitehouse? And what an unbelievable arse he is for going back there after all! And accusing Buffy of being a hypocrite for dusting them while insisting on letting the peaceful demons live when he would dust Spike without hesitation. And Buffy had no assurances that those working in the bitehouses weren't killing.
Frustrating and disturbing, but fantastically written. I hope that there will be more soon.
I really don't think Riley would have the slightest problem with giving up the Key. Good for Buffy that she decides it is better not to tell him that it is Dawn.[Report This]
Ugh. Buffy is trying so hard that it is painful. She's obviously deep in denial and her desperate attempts to convince everyone (including herself) how perfect things are just makes it all the more obvious how much it isn't what she really needs.
Riley can see that. He knows that she is playing along and doing everything right but that he can never truly satisfy her. He is selfish enough not to care - so long as she is willing to pretend that he is all she needs then he will take it.
Poor Spike. I can understand how the plastic stake convinced him to stay well away. He has realised that there is no point trying to change Buffy's mind either - keeping his distance even though it hurts him to do so. It is so sad how he notices the difference between the Slayer, killing demons with abandon, and Buffy, girlfriend of Riley, hiding her passion and diminishing herself to be the little girl in need of a protector that he wishes she was.
Riley could feel her fear mixed with her desire ... and it felt fantastic. - this is really fucking disturbing. And what is worse is the way that she *lets* him do it when she clearly doesn't want him to.
And the fact that though he hadn't intended to this time, he is now actively plotting to get her pregnant.
So squicky and horrible.[Report This]
Yuck. What a horrible, horrible start to a fic. Star-crossed Buffy and Riley.
What can I say? It is very well written, and I knew what we were getting in for at the start, but it won't make me enjoy the wrongness that is Biley any more.
I actually really like the premise of this fic and am really looking forward to seeing what you do with it. Especially the bits with Spike and the baby. And I will suffer through the Riley bits because it will make the ending all the sweeter.
Thanks for the great new fic![Report This]
Still, he’d planted a seed. With Spike’s usual luck it would likely not even sprout in the barren soil of Xander’s brain, but there was always a chance it would bear fruit. Delightful, succulent, schadenfreude-flavoured fruit.
I couldn’t tell you what’s not to love about this paragraph, because it is entirely amazing. I love Spike’s inner dialogue here; it’s so fitting to his personality and the duality of his nature.
Buffy explaining that she’s not an exterminator and that since Spike isn’t a threat and like the world, therefore deserves to live in it, was a perfect sum of why Riley has it all backwards. The conversation with the Council was another tell to just how...twisted up he’s getting incrementally. And god, thinking once Buffy is a mother to his kids and give up Slayerhood (plus learn to cook)everything will be okay? YIKES, Riley.
Excellent chapter and I’m excited to see where this story goes![Report This]
Jesus Christ, Riley. I really hope he gets what’s coming for him for doing this to Buffy. I know it’s for necessary plot reasons but he should 100% be beaten over the head with his own legs for the lack of condom consent. Ugh.
I feel for Spike here, and you’ve written this chapter in a super engaging way. Off to the next one
Riley is a idiot thinking he can take Spike. The Council is interested in him because he fought and killed two Slayers. His first one just ten years after being turned. Take the chip out and Spike will mop the floor with him.
Will Travers tell Buffy what Riley said that she needs help because she can't do it alone. He just wants the extra man power because he wants her barefoot and pregnant while he goes out and fights the demons she won't kill
Great Spike voice here. I can hear him playing pool with Xander and trying to get information from him about Buffy without Xander cluing in.
I doubt Xander will let himself think about what Spike has told him about Riley and his trips to the bite houses and how it IS cheating. Too much conflict with the boy's world view.
Love the Council's questions to Riley. Naturally, his ego wouldn't let him give her the credit she deserved even when he KNEW they were not to be trusted. Still, he feels sorry for himself.
So he's upset that his bite house whore is not available. He'll be angry with her for that too.
He is certainly determined to get Buffy pregnant, to gain the upper hand in his mind (actually, pull her down to his level in his thinking. Make her a "normal" girl like she should be). Ass!!!
He knew it was important to her, the slayer thing. - I truly, truly may have to strap my eyeballs in more securely with all of the eye rolling I have been forced to do.
I have determined that Riley = eye rolls and really sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. EUGH. His level of rapey gross is splendidly and so believably done.
Love it, Be!![Report This]
He knew he couldn’t face up to a real man. Riley could kill him without breaking a sweat, and Spike wouldn’t even be able to fight back.---HA!! yup cuz "real men" need their vamps to be chips and helpless
just the things he wanted his sons to be. Once she had a family, she could stop slaying, too, devote herself to raising the next generation of heroes. --The watcher was right about one thing Riley does NOT get what it means to be the Slayer.
What had she done to Mindy? After all her talk of letting peaceful demons live, too. It was unbelievable.---So a chipped Spike is evil and needs to die but a non-chipped blood sucking Mindy is peaceful?? hahaha Ugh I hope the Riley part is not toooo long cuz I truly cannot stand him