Thank you for writing this! I hate season 12 off-screen bullshit break-up as well. There was absolutely no point. The Spuffy fans were ok with reading them together all those years it was such a slap in the face after buying the comics regularly. We wanted this cozy Spuffy![Report This]
This is more of an anti-Joss rant than a review of your lovely story.
I share your lividity. I refuse to read S12 after reading about what he did to them. Joss is dead to me.
Just because Joss cannot be honest, or faithful, or maintain a love relationship in his life, does not mean that that reality doesn't exist for other people. It seems that the "party line" for drama is that a good, stable relationship is boring and not worth depicting. That to create dramatic tension, show character growth, and hold reader interest, there must be conflict and pain. Well, to me that seems like the easy way out. It's so easy to manufacture conflict and angst, and basically keep characters at an immature level of emotional maturity, eternal teenagers as they go from one broken relationship to another, never learning how to move to a higher level.
It would be more difficult to construct a story that lets the characters evolve, develop wisdom, and deepen a true connection to a partner. I want to read that kind of story, because it helps me to grow to have that story as an example. You wrote that story in "Just to Reach You."
We have the problem of being stuck in the male view in human culture. In spite of the veneer of feminism and girl power of Buffy (and it was a breakthrough for its time), when I look at it now, I just see toxic masculinity splattered all over it (not to mention the racism, the homophobia, the ageism, and I'm sure there must be more). I think most US TV shows, movies, and many books are written from the straight, white, male view because, as Buffy/the First said, "It's about power." I don't think Joss has evolved at all, despite his brag that he is a "woke bae"; one need look no farther than his Wonderwoman script to see the misogyny, the cheap jokes at the female characters' expense. He's still Xander circa 1999 in his mind.
Ach, I could go on about this, but I'll stop now.
I liked your story. It's an interesting peek into the interior of their now stable, committed relationship: how they come together and then do their own things, and then come together again. How they do normal.
It's true that in life most relationships don't work out; that's called dating. It's also true that a lot of marriages fail. That doesn't mean they all do, and perhaps we all would be better served by art if we were given more examples of how to create a successful relationship. Spike is the perfect kind of "man" for Buffy to attempt this with. He's already shown the ability to give more than 50% in a relationship with someone who didn't treat him well for over 100 years, and she ended it, not him. So I reject S12, and hew to your reality of a strong partnership for them.[Report This]
Nicely done. I love it when you fix things. My favourite words to see at the start of a story are still 'ignores the comics'.
Love that she was reading fan fics. :)
Thank you so much! <3
Yes! Yes! Yes! I heard about S12 through fanfic and so was spared the experience of reading it. There may be some value in frustrating teenagers' expectations of happy endings (debatable), but realistically, how many Buffy fans these days are that young and callow? This middle-aged woman is only too aware of how disappointing life can be; I really don't need Joss to rub my nose in it. Thank God that there are so many excellent writers producing fanfic.[Report This]
Aahhh this fic is a breath of fresh air after the stupid twelfth season. I know most of the fandom doesn't consider the comics canon, if they've ever even read them; but as for me, I like the comics, and I can't but feel like they are, at their core, canon. So you can imagine my dismay at reading that season... although even around Angel season 10 I was pretty disappointed, let alone season 11... but Buffy! The characters went through so much stuff, and they grew so much, and you're right, damn it, a healthy and happy long-term relationship is possible. (Ok, not like I have any first-hand experience with that, but that doesn't make me think they don't exist.) So, like I said: breath of fresh air. Not to mention, that season was so short and the romantic statuses of both Spuffy and Angel/Illyria were so out of the blue... ugh. Doesn't make sense.
Anyway, I'm gonna stop rambling right now. Thank you thank you thank you for this little fic. Made me all warm and fuzzy, they're cute, and they deserve the calm and peaceful kind of happiness too. :)
I don't think I'll ever get over the crap fest of the start of S12. Joss can take a long walk off a short pier, and flipping Jed with him. My summer was stressful enough without both of my security blanket being deep-sixed at almost the same time.
This Halloween I'll have been with my husband for 21 years (since we were 16/17) so I have a little first hand knowledge, and we've grown a lot as people during that time, but we did it together. I don't get it why there's this big cultural idea that to really be yourself you have to be an island, or that people in a relationship are somehow static. SIGH.
Anyway, I'm glad I could give you a warm fuzzy and no matter what Joss says, I'm pretty sure Spuffy would be great together in both the exciting and the not-exiting times!
I've actually only now discovered about Jed, googling him. He was involved in season 12? Honestly, as much as I love and appreciate Joss, I think the decision to split up Buffy was mostly his (especially after Gage devoted two seasons to making their relationship grow), and it was a stupid, pointless decision. I'm sorry about your security blanket, and about your stressful summer - really, thank goodness for fanfic, even if it doesn't stop the rage at the stupid season!!
Most importantly though, congratulations for an inspiring relationship with your husband :) I don't know either of you, but growing up together does sound inspiring anyway! Especially what you say about the cultural idea of being alone = being yourself, I hate that too. Thanks again for the fic :)
Jed's also the showrunner for Agents of SHIELD, so I'm laying the blame on watching what I had to in the S5 finale squarely on him. Gort and I thought we were going to lose our lunch.
Oh, I see... I haven't started that series yet, so thank you for not saying what happens at the end of the season. Although now I'm worried... :/
If you do we're sitting on A LOT of fic over on AO3 now ;-)
Ooh, thanks for mentioning it! Hehe :D
I don't read the comics, though I see bits and pieces on Twitter, so I vaguely know what went down. All that aside, your version is perfect even without the background info. But "Screw Joss." made me snort my cola.
You're not missing much with the comics, at all.
I'm so glad you enjoyed!
Joss and Jed can eat my shorts.
I still wonder how... why... how could they do this... To us. So unfair.
I like this version better. Thank you for writing it :)
It's just terrible :(
Thank you so much for the read and review!
Too right--- SCREW JOSS!!! He just couldn't leave well enough alone! Couldn't let us have some happiness. And why end the series, unless he's just tired of it?
Thank the gods for fanfic writers like you!
I wish it didn't feel so half-assed, sigh, everyone deserved better from S12. I don't know why they're ending the seasons, but at least we won't have to deal with anything else from him about Buffy anytime soon. I hope.
Fanfic does help make it better!
I’m in no rush to read S12 now, and thrilled to have such a lovely view into modern day BnS.
Thanks for the lovely little glimpse.
It's really not worth it, lol. And I'm very glad you enjoyed this little slice of life! Thank you for the read and review!
Thank you for this! It's exactly what I needed. I just adored Buffy reading fanfic, and Xander and Spike playing Diablo 3... *squee* the only thing that would have made me laugh harder would have been them playing WOW and hearing Spike throw a fit in the other room when another player killed him. 😂
Anyway great little one shot. It made my day. Especially after the ridiculousness of Season 12... Thanks for making my day.
Thank you so much! I really needed a fandom hug after Joss dropped that mess on us, and to spend some time with my favorite characters. I very much appreciate the read and review!
This is such a wonderful response to the opening issue of s12! I'm immensely pleased with this makeover and definitely prefer it.
I adore this quiet day between the two. It captivates everything someone really wants with another. A relationship where you can be happy in the noise and the silence, together. Where you can have your own respective friendships and lives, but still never truly be apart.
The little details regarding the characters' outfits, Buffy's choice in going without makeup/ Spike going without hair gel, and their various entertainment for the day gave me a lot of warm fuzzies. I was able to find parts of my own life and connect further with the characters. I LOVE watching and commenting on ninja warrior. I play Diablo 3 with my friends. I've e-mailed you about a tv show (though that was Game of Thrones). They had a fun time having sex and it not being a "big deal," just a relaxing thing to do with one another.
Gosh, it's been a bit since I've written a review! Hopefully this will get me back into the habit. Thanks for all your hard work writing and sharing this. :)
Thank you over here too!
Not boring, just normal for a vamp and a slayer. I don't know why Joss can't handle a long term healthy relationship in the verses he writes. From all accounts, he's in one in real life. At least he's been gracious enough to give his blessing to fanfiction in the verses, where talented people like you can fix the verses the way they should be, lol. Thanks for sharing some Quiet with the rest of us.
Thank you! I'd need a lot of time to explain everything I thought was wrong with Joss and his storytelling (he can do characters like no one's business, then fails to grasp as anything other than marionettes for plot, it drives me batty) (Let's throw Jed in there too. Screw him.) I really appreciate the read and review!
Thank you! Really enjoyed that, I'm so not happy with season12! I need a pick me up, and this was perfect.
Thank you! I needed to spend a little time with Spike and Buffy after Issue 1 of S12 dropped and I thought I should share! :-D
Honestly? THIS is a perfect example of why we have fanfic. This perfectly hits the mood for the kind of 'ending' people want.
I loved it and deeply enjoyed it.
Thank you so much! I really needed to spend this time with Buffy and Spike being how I know they'd be in between apocalypses, and I thought I should share!
ITA, screw Joss.
LOVE this beautiful day-in-the-life domestic one-shot. This is how I picture them with no effort and no boredom.
This really is Buffy's "normal". She is a Slayer and even if she had fallen in love with a human she'd never have some life out of a 50's TV show (who does?). This day off is great. They are together but doing their thing with others at the same time. (I think Buffy should really five Outlander a shot...it's addictive, both the show and the books).
Spike and Xander as gaming buddies fit so well too. They really could have had this sort of relationship. The bonds are all there but have now expanded to include Spike.
This is a perfect example of a contented, happy, life. This is also what they showed they could have had from what we saw in early S6 before it got ugly. They just fit.
“No, Buffy, this isn’t boring. It’s normal. Or as normal as a Slayer and a vamp are going to get. For me, it’s like being in bloody heaven.” Exactly.
LOVED this completely.
Thank you for writing it, needed it badly today between Joss being Joss and the world being suck city. Thanks for posting this gem.
After Joss being stupid I really needed some Buffy and Spike time :( (and man, that was almost a month to the day that Jed stabbed me in the heart. BOTH of them can take a long walk off a short pier as far as I'm concerned)
I'm sure Buffy will catch up on Outlander! I used it here to do a bit of lifting for some fanfic meta. (Since Galbadon has been very vocal against fanworks, I thought it was a nice way to then frame how much readers get from fanworks and how often we find more joy there than the show (I picked a coffee shop au and a very far away from canon au to highlight the transformative nature of transformative works). Gort and I also binged Outlander when I was crashing on her couch, and finally, Spike with a scottish accent was an in-joke for me and her. (cuz SHIELD)
Spike and Xander as friends is one of my favorite things, and it's totally there in the comics, and I could see them playing and chatting for hours on end.
The not doing well in the quiet moments thing didn't make sense to me because, as you said, they do well in those moments. Like when Buffy says she can be alone with him, or when he holds her for hours without saying a word. So whatever is going on, it's impossible to buy the explaination we're given. I hope Joss is just doing a thing for drama's sake, but I bet he leaves her without a realtionship and everyone in fandom is free to choose whomever they want without out him having to endure a firestorm from fans for his choice. I get it, but he at least could have made the Spuffy breakup make sense. We (and them) at least deserved that.
I'm glad you enjoyed and because this week/month/year has been the pits.
Perfection. Utter perfection. I feel healed. This is exactly what I needed at this moment in the fandom and this moment just in the terrifying world. This is such a well-written, realistic loving relationship.
Yay, thank you! I needed a fandom hug after Joss pulled that crap, as well as to spend some time with my favorite couple while there were just going about their regular lives...and I thought I should share! :-D
I enjoyed that. It wa nice and made me happy.
My strategy since the whole "Buffy's not pregnant, she's just a robot of herself right now" thing has been to consider the comics twisted fan-fiction. :)
I usually don't think of the comics as canon at all, but this hit me hard for some reason. :(
I'm very glad you enjoyed!
I am, so, so, so glad I didn't get sucked into starting to read the comics again (I gave them up long ago!!) when I saw the little scenes of love and happiness with Spike and Buffy that were posted here and there online. From what I see from everyone screaming, Joss screwed it all up again! Argh! That man! I don't think I could take that a second time!
This was lovely! Very normal. Isn't that what Buffy always wanted? And Spike would never find her boring, no matter how normal their lives were -- it would be heaven for him to know that he could be in that life with her, to give her her dream.
Thanks for sharing! Very nice!
Thank you! I think Spuffy would find the routineness of everyday life a comfort. Their strength is in quiet moments, and having that tossed in our faces as what would break them up makes no sense.
I really didn't think I cared much about the comics, so this whole thing hit me much harder than I expected it to.
Stupid Joss. He and Jed can take a hike.