His being in love with her didn’t mean he expected her to reciprocate. On the contrary... he was fairly sure that meant she was more likely to leave than ever. - Oh god. So true to Spike. And so, so heartbreaking. And, oh, how similar to Buffy is that...
YES YES YES. FUCKING YES. I should probably not be so happy to see them all dead, but I am. (says something about me, even having a soul, now doesn't it?)
Also, I hope Spike's head is okay. Because, ouch.
No, wanting all the bastards dead doesn't mean you're evil. They were nasty pieces of work.
I caught the "inevitable betrayal reference." At first I was worried that Buffy had somehow been brainwashed, but once she started "seducing" Riley, I knew it had to be faked.
And they are chip free? Yay? Can they escape now?
Yes, they are utterly chip free and ready to go! Once they figure out how to get rid of the Initiative itself... because bad mojo.
Oh thank heavens. Even as a vamp Buffy seemed to have this rigid morality. Sometimes doing the right thing seems wrong and I wasn't sure if she could see it.
Right and wrong are very confusing when you're not entirely human yourself.
I was on the edge of my seat a good bit of the chapter.
At first I thought Buffy was just doing this so Spike could get a chip. So she wouldn't have to stake him later on. Not what I expected.
I can't believe she killed Walsh. I didn't think that she would be able to kill someone who was human. Not really sure that she had any other decent choices lying around though.
Yeah, basically, Walsh put her in the middle of a freaking war. War is like that.
Trying to make sense of Buffy's thoughts is of course hard for Spike. He can follow her logic but it's mostly meaningless to him (a lot of it to me too).
Then his worry when it seems like she will betray him but she was following her plan. First make sure that Riley can't fight than attached Walsh. The fact that she killed her surprised me. Two possibilities, she either lost the soul (which seems unlikely) or she has thought things through, she has finally understood that these humans are enemies and must be destroyed.
I suppose I will learn about that tomorrow.
She's a clever girl, Buffy. Mostly she's just trying to sort out her life, and everything around her.
"I've come to know you so well these last hours" Almost can't believe Riley bought that. Almost.
I actually believed she'd go through with the this chip. Buffy must not be so soulist, after all! :)
Yeah, it was MAJORLY lame. Dumb Riley.
The chapter was full of suspense. I loved it. I didn't know what to expect until the end of it. And I was surprised when Buffy killed Walsh. But I'm so glad the bitch is dead! I can’t wait to know the reason why Buffy changed her mind and killed a human being - not that Maggie didn't deserve it, as she was a crazy fanatic with dreams of world domination.
Yeah, I think that's kind of the point. Maggie wasn't human, really. Certainly not humane.
Did Riley give Buffy a happy when she drank from him? There wasn't enough time for anything else. . . . .right? Or did Spike give her a happy the night before? He couldn't have, because Buffy didn't want Spike to kill the werewolf. So if Buffy STILL HAS HER SOUL, how does she justify killing Dr. Walsh? Self-defense? We all know that self-righteous Buffy would have beat the stuffing out of Spike, or dust him for killing a human, even in self-defense. So, what gives? Not that I'm not tickled three shades of pink that Walsh is history, but I really need to know why Buffy killed her without any problems. I can't wait for the next update! Thanjs.
Oh, don't worry, it's all spelled out. As for "without any problems".... Well.
Well this is pivotal.
I am surprised by Walsh's death, but not by Buffy's double cross. It was pretty clear Buffy was playing Walsh. And Riley! His first bite.
What a relief for Spike. Too bad they actually cut into his head. Good thing he was quick enough on the uptake to recognize what Slayer was up to.
Slayer and Spike are justified in doing whatever they need to do to escape from the Initiative, and not submit to the torture administered to the prisoners. Hopefully Buffy will see this is a POW-type situation, and not be guilt-ridden.
So all that soft-talking : does Slayer have thrall?
I am still looking forward to the laughing Buffy and Spike as depicted on your banner.
Buffy already established she had a bit of a thrall, in chapter two. She was practicing it, anyway, on some of the fledges, and getting out of speeding tickets.
The laughing happens. Not exactly as depicted there, but the laughing does happen! I swear!
Only to find that Walsh was already dead. Vampire or not, Slayer surprised me by killing Walsh.
Poor Spike, this chapter was like an emotional roller-coaster ride to him. First the waiting and uncertainty what happened to Buffy and how she might perceive his actions, then Buffy seemingly betraying him, a bout of jealousity before Buffy frees him to fight.
Yeah, crazy situation for Spike AND Slayer.
Thank goodness Buffy didn't let them chip him! After what Willow and Angel did to her, she knows how it would feel to be forced into that sort of torment. The chip had its uses in canon, but I still didn't like it. It was unnatural and inhumane.
So Buffy killed a human. Can't say Walsh didn't deserve it. I wonder how the Scoobies will react when they find out?
The chip was complicated. It was, in its way, good for Spike, but it was also a slow death sentence, and the reasons for it were abysmal.
Human Buffy would have let the chiptomy (😕) be performed on Spike, vamp Buffy is all shades of confuses some but she has some degree of understanding of level of cruelty the chip is.
I like how you really portray the horror that was the initiative and the extent of evil humans can reach in the name of the good of humanity and have Buffy understanding that, in Canon Buffy goes against them only when they turn on her,it always left me dissatisfied.
I wonder if she let spike be chipped would that had been the deal breaker for him.... I always wondered what would have had him said enough and be done with her.
You know, I don't know if human Buffy would have let the chip happen, if she'd had time to think of all the implications and knew all the details. She didn't want it REMOVED, probably because she didn't actually want to have to kill Spike. (If she did, she'd just have done it.) Vamp Buffy... she knows how dangerous it can be to be a vampire. They're strong, but they are vulnerable, and she knows what it's like to have something shoved up inside you without your consent.
But Canon Buffy joined the initiative with the knowledge of what was happening there. Buffy never seem to be able to function outside absolutes, in the episode with the Indians (ehh I think the term is native American, wink wink) she just prefer to stay out of it, for Buffy it seems that it never was about right or wrong when it came to humans, it was always about protecting humans, so if the chip prevents human dead from happening go ahead. ..she only made exceptions with love one's, so I can see her agreeing to the chipping
I think there's arguments on both sides. The issue is if she knew everything about it. She herself said in season seven that the chip was evil, and you can't stop evil by doing evil. In any case, she certainly knows how awful it is NOW. She did join the initiative... but she also joined asking questions and not following blindly, so there were surely doubts in her head about it.
Yup she asked questions, she had doubts ,she was given a tour of the place but she joined anyways. Her doubts weren't stronger than her beliefs of what was she was teach about humans and demos and her love interest at the time was part of the organization, another hole can of worms that could have me rant for hours . I love Buffy, and I think her characterization was perfect all from the beginning to the end of the show, but her character had big holes when it came to morality questions and conceptions of right and wrong.