Buffy and her "Soul" issues - certainly makes her life easier if it would come down to her black/white world view. How did she ever get past the humans are killers and murder each other by the millions - all with souls.
You wrote in the shot box a while back that perhaps it's Action Made The Man - but I think it more Free Choice Makes The Man.
Buffy REALLY wants the world to be black and white, and it bugs her when it isn't.
Poor Buffy so entrenched with the black and white dogma, at least she is from my perspective. If only life were as simple as Good vs Evil. Does she think for one minute that she would not kill if someone attack her mother and was about to kill Joyce? She would go into instant protection even if she had to kill the human attacker. She was able to still accept Angel back in her life after he killed, and there had to have been a great many victims, when he lost his soul. Those were all victims and deaths irrespective of Soul or No Soul - and she was responsible for those deaths since she chose not to dust Angel/Angelus, but now it's all about "I am responsible" but not so much with the caring, not enough to forfeit her relationship with Angel who still has Angelus coexisting with Angel.
It's good that she now can understand more that life is a lot more complex than she once thought - she still has a lot more to figure out about life and the Good vs Evil parameters she has set her life on. The Blood/Slaughter House is a great way to get the blood that sustains her life and those of other vamps she can convince or control into this feeding alternative.
Buffy is pretty twisted up over the circumstance, her circumstance as a vampire, and what's going on with her and Spike.
I... can't respond adequately to this review, just to say thanks. Thanks!
those green eyes with the sharp edges, like broken bottles straight to the heart... - *cracks up*. Our dear, sweet evil TERRIBLE poet.
Well, it’s some bloody awful poetry, but the binding is sound-
I just do whatever I want, I don’t call it good or evil... I love feeling - Spike in a nutshell!
This story, I must say, is such a wonderful character study of our big three (Angel, Spike, Buffy).
Why thank you! I always try to deconstruct the characters.
Oh no! They got Ludo! :(
This story is very riveting.
Poor Ludo. He gets out! Yeah, the challenge insisted on a crossover, so... it was a very small crossover with various out-of-universe demony-things.
Love all these in-depth conversations. Buffy sorely needed someone to talk to, especially someone with Spike's perspective.
And Spike can be so caring, it kinda makes me melt a little (okay, a lot).
He's fallen awfully hard, awfully fast, and I love every second of it.
They're totally gonna cream whatever demon that is.
Spike has fallen much more deeply into Buffy than he did into that pit....
Brilliant chapter. I love how I read this story and you make me sigh and you make me smile and you make me giggle and you make me hole my breath. The storyline and the characters suck me right in.
Aww. Just.... Thank you!
There were a bunch of things which didn’t even make sense that they were holding. Like, okay, it made sense that they had one of those weevil demons that infested Wales LOL Tip of the hat to Torchwood there.
They also think we’re all idiots, Spike realized. The beasts in a zoo thing. It wasn’t just contempt, it was actual ignorance. It wasn’t that they were ignoring them because they believed them all evil. They honestly didn’t realize that some vampires, at least, could retain intelligence beneath the bloodlust. Oh yeah they are clueless. That's a good thing because the best way to best an enemy is to have them undersestimate you.
those green eyes with the sharp edges, like broken bottles straight to the heart.... Love this!
Yup bad time to get your heart in the drivers seat Spike, it rarely goes well for you. Then again it is who he is isn't it? Completely in love, not just prey-hunting love. Love the distinction. It makes sense about there being a form of love for the prey he hunts too. It's different and he knows it.
LOL at his fantasy. I can see her loving it all too...until... Hone in on what kind of victims she wanted to – Um no. That would only get you a staking Spike LOL.
It sort of bothered him that the idea of seducing that soul out of her didn’t really appeal. You haven’t fallen in love with her soul, you stupid man Ah but in a sense he has. He loved Buffy long before he knew it, long before his return for the Gem led him here. Dru saw it. The soul makes her still part Buffy so of course he doesn't want it gone. He was always attracted to the LIGHT in her. The traits he listed in S7 were all about the good in her. He doesn't want just another vampire lover, he wants someone effulgent, it's what he's always wanted.
A fighting pit with observation room above. This is going to be bad but at least they are together. The scientists won't know what to make of them. They'll need to fight well but not give away all their tricks, don't let them know TOO much after all.
People don’t knock out as easily as Batman would have you think. I know Adam West is sexy and all, but I think I’m a bit beyond him. LOL Oh Spike your pop culture references need updating or only Joyce and Giles will get them!
There are powerful vampires who aren’t complete assholes.” ... “Name two.” ... “Me and Angel.” Pfft Leave off the Angel and insert Spike and I'll go with that.
“I want you to get out of here. If that means I have to kill every single one of these sods, I’ll do it without remorse.” Yeah she should listen to what he IS saying there. Even knowing her urge will be to kill him if he were to do this he'd still do it to get her to safety. He also is saying the goal is to get HER out, getting out himself is secondary. That's very telling there and she didn't hear it.
Yeah that beautiful (mean it...it was) speach on what he'd do to get her to safety had nothing to do with her being family, youngest member or not. It's all about him loving her. Once Spike loves he does whatever it takes for the loved one. I hope Buffy remembers how he loved Dru (and doesn't try to deny what she saw). He is all in when he loves.
Yes, he needs to get some home truths told to her about limits to her responsibilities. Sadly she has assumed the responsibility for the whole bloody world and it was never hers. There was no logic to the "one girl chosen" idea for a Slayer if she was going to be responsible for the whole world! Why stick her in a small town in So Cal with enhanced powers but not "super" powers if that was the case? There are demons and vampires all over the world, even other places with a hellmouth.
He's given her food for thought if only they have the leisure time to actually think.
I've read ahead but will review more tomorrow when I am not brain dead.
Who, me? Make a Torchwood reference? Would I ever do such a thing? *Kicks Immortal under the bed.*
I always thought part of what made Spike fall desperately in love with her was that he always sort of resented being turned/killed/put-in-a-position-where-he-killed-his-own-mother. Yes, he loved it. No, he didn't regret it. But at the same time, there's this loss... There's only one girl in all the world who could have saved him from that... and that's the slayer.
And aww, thanks! Glad you think Spike's little speech was beautiful. Poor Buffy blaming herself for every death, including her own. Gotta be hell.
And you are AWESOME Kathleen! Braindead or not!
It is always interesting to watch Spike get around to admitting his feelings for Buffy go past baser instincts. He truly cares about her in his own way, and its almost sad, because even though he is a demon, his love for Buffy seems so human. He just wants a girl he loves, to love him back.
It was a terrible time to realize he had fallen in love. Completely in love, not just prey-hunting love."
A great way of putting it.
And that last bit... I guess a battle royale is ahead.
Thanks for the update!
Yeah, gotta differentiate between true love and prey-love.
In the demons we could see some references to other shows, I recognised Torchwood and Dr Who too I think. The wombat creature with a cane made me think of Yoda.
Spike also figured out that he loves Slayer. She do have a special way of seeing things. I can follow her thoughts even if they doesn't make sense to me, no wonder she always felt guilty with that attitude. It won't help with logic to make her see reason either, it's a totally emotional thing.
Good recognition on othershow beasties!
Great chapter! The dialogues were brilliant, as ever, and I liked the tender moment between Buffy and Spike. The references to Labyrinth and Torchwood were nice.
There's a bunch, Labyrinth, Torchwood, the Tharils are from classic Doctor Who (E-Space trilogy, Warrior's Gate, if you're curious.) And I'm pretty sure the guy with the cane might even be Yoda, though I left him VERY vague. There's one more crossover beastie in the next chapter.
Great story. I've been too curious to read more to stop and review.
I like your forgotten bag verse. It's just a tiny deviation from canon but the butterfly effect did a terrible job here.
Spike's and Buffy's interactions are pure gold and your dialogue is brilliant.
So Spike has realized his feelings and I am curious when he'll blurt it out.
I love the way you put that. Blurt. Yeah. It's gonna be a verbal incontinence, and you just KNOW Buffy won't appreciate.
Uh-oh. Maggie Walsh is just as bad as Jabba the Hutt, trapping her prisoners in her basement and making them fight mystery creatures.
(PS, I just saw your review reply and I absolutely agree! I almost mentioned that shot of him going down on the bot! So. Freaking. Hot. Let's hope there will somehow be some of that in Buffy's future.)
Oh... give him half a chance and there SO will be!
Oooh poor Ludo!!! I loved the Labyrinth reference
Great chapter, I love seeing Spike interact with Buffy, he's so cute :)
Challenge specified crossover. There's crossover! Isn't Spike a doll?
I just love how Spike is helping Buffy with her vampirism, trying to make her life a little better, a liitle sweeter. Spike tries so hard too, just like he sees how Buffy tries. It's just Buffy's mission is to save the world, and Spike's is to love her. That's always been the beauty of them for me.
Vampirism is hard on Buffy, she doesn't quite GET it. She's still a fledge, really.
I love how you put that. I think I addressed that in my story This Thing We Have, where she was his whole world. She couldn't do the same because she had a world to save, but he still completed her...
Aww, Ludo! Poor beast.
And he seemed like such a nice beast....
I love spuffy, but labyfic is my home.
I honestly feel it almost sacrilegious to write labyrinth fic....
I honestly feel it almost sacrilegious to write labyrinth fic.... (Goes to show you how much I love Labyrinth!)
And the "testing " begins. I love how Spike keeps talking logic to her to make her think for herself instead of just arguing and telling her she's wrong. He will get much further with her that way. I am so glad you update daily!
And will until chapter 18, when I start posting my SECOND challenge fic...
Not Ludo! I can't believe they captured Ludo. :( Actually it was a cool Labyrinth reference. I love all the Spuffy bonding as well. This story just keeps getting better and better. I can't wait for the next chapter.
The challenge demanded a crossover. I grabbed random monsters. Figured that would fulfill it.